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  1. 2 points
    True grid parity without subsidies with storage around 2023 in the cheapest labor countries with moderately good insolation. Target $0.60/watt installed. If $0.10 for storage, then that becomes $0.50 without storage. At 35% module cost and 65% BOS, you have a module cost in projects at of $0.175 and a BOS of $0.325. The production costs will need to be around $0.13-$0.14 to achieve profits with Opex and shipping globally. By the way those production costs are in the mid to upper range of Perovskite prices suggested by GCL($0.10-$0.15). These are my rough numbers. but this article suggests 2020-2023 in China for the first subsidy free projects though they do get reduced land fees to free land use. https://www.pv-magazine.com/2019/05/22/china-reveals-details-of-first-15-gw-of-grid-parity-solar/
  2. 2 points
    New CN policy looks to be targeting 2019 installations greater than 2018. Seems to set targets of around 45GW. http://guangfu.bjx.com.cn/news/20190219/963630.shtml According to the most conservative estimate, the installed capacity of photovoltaics will reach more than 45 million kilowatts in 2019, which has exceeded 44.26 million kilowatts in 2018 http://guangfu.bjx.com.cn/news/20190219/963637.shtml In 2019, the subsidized rated installed capacity will be calculated according to the current expected 3 billion subsidy scale (excluding poverty alleviation). The subsidy intensity of the power subsidy is 0.075 yuan/kWh, and the subsidy scale is about 35.9 GW. (When the power subsidy intensity is 0.05 yuan/kWh, the subsidy scale is about 53.8GW), and then consider 5GW photovoltaic poverty alleviation and 5GW unsubsidized projects, and deduct about 1GW of household occupancy index after 2018 531, 2019 The installed capacity of photovoltaics in the year may reach 45GW, exceeding the installed capacity of 44.3GW in 2018.
  3. 2 points
    Awesome update from CSIQ. Beat on Q4.
  4. 2 points
    Hopefully not for a buyout at 18.60! Chuckle....
  5. 2 points
    The story of Canadian pipeline shrinking was heard loud and clear on this forum since Canadian plants were completed. The company is not only one pure developer still standing, but it is producing more and more business encompassing other arms of managing solar plants. It maintains healthy "sell and/or keep" strategy. There are many markets to go with solar plants. And those markets will expand. We have not seen any victims of the slowdowns with exception of few subs going bankrupt in China. There is plenty of space available. The manufacturing and the decisions made had worked thus far for the company. I am not sure why transformation, when required, would not be as well executed as it has been to date. Not sure why a successful organization would suddenly lose its footing. They are the most capable of a shift. FSLR has zero ability to shift, SPWR is dead, JKS is almost dead and will never be buried if it died, like Yingli, but CSIQ is somehow paralyzed and cannot make a move? I read those scenarios too many times. I argued against them as many, and I am surprised to see them again. Even Snake seems to be seeing Chinese taking FSLR to cleaners now. I do not have a skin in this game, but I think Canadian could surprise few folks here with its share price going forward. Cheers, I am back under the rock.
  6. 2 points
    While I understand (and, as a former [albeit small] JASO stockholder, share) the sentiment, I wouldn't put too much stock into this announcement (pun intended). First, since the guilty parties are all in China, I don't know if a US court has any jurisdiction over them. Second, Pomerantz are ambulance chasers. I've seen their name in dozens of headlines. A company will announce bad news one day, and the next half a dozen of these guys all announce lawsuits, including Pomerantz. I have never once heard of such a suit actually being successful. So this may be a Pyrrhic victory at best....
  7. 1 point
    Here you go, straight from the horse's mouth: "...And for the Q2, the gross margin is at the mid range of 14% to 15%, it’s relatively lower than Q1. And Q1, the gross margin is pretty good and exceeding our guidance. And for the Q2, it's basically because our new capacity is still in the construction stage and will not have contributing to the profitability in second quarter..." https://seekingalpha.com/article/4272691-jinkosolar-holding-co-ltd-jks-ceo-chen-kangping-q1-2019-results-earnings-call-transcript?part=single That puts them around break-even before adjustments in Q2 on my books. A forex gain may probably put some icing on the numbers.
  8. 1 point
    Here are 11 points I have from the con call gudiance and market dynamics as of now. 1: The ASP will drop significantly in the second half due to some 3-4GW or 40-45% of their guided second half shipments being to China where high efficiency mono PERC is running 10% lower than average high efficiency mono PERC prices. 2: The CN demand is going to cause around a 1.5-2.5% lower GM due to the lower ASP even with cost reductions due to production ramps and increased high efficiency modules as a percentage. 3: The U.S. tariff ruling making double sided modules as exempt is going to create a problem for single sided modules and the ASP. It will cause the price to drop on those modules. The market is about 4GW for these double sided modules when you take away the tariff free quantity and the FSLR quantity and the SPWR exemptions. This is going to make the modules ASP drop in the US from $0.40 to low $0.30 or even upper $0.20's effectively killing and single sided module sales that are not tariff free. This is going to create issues with cost to manufacture in the new 400MW facility in the U.S as well. 4: Any swapping of single sided for double sided modules will most likely impact the ASP in renegotiated lower prices to entice the swap out of dissimilar modules. 5: The drop in the ASP from what appears to be a blended $0.28 will likely fall to mid $0.25 to $0.26 in the second half due to these dynamics above. 6: The margins should be falling from mid 16% to mid 14% due to the dynamics mentioned above will imapct earnins by some $60-$70M in gross income. It will fall from estimated $380M down to an estimated $320M+/-. 7: Opex is going to jump to some $130M+ per quarter with the 1-1.25GW of increased modules per quarter 8: Interest is going to increase by some $5-7M in the second half over the first half due to the increased debts. 9: Income before taxes is likely to drop from nearly $70M down to around $20M in the second half. 10: Q2 should flip the hedging numbers impacting earnings from Q1. That would suggest upwards increase of $0.50 per share increase in Q2 earnings over Q1. 11: the target of 40GW is down from earlier suggestions of 45GW to possiby 50GW. A 10-15% market share by JKS built into guidance would have suggested 4GW-6GW of guidance was to be from China. Right now they are probably looking at 600MW-1GW of that in the first half of 2019. The second half would have 3-5GW from the initial guidance. This new 40GW China target would suggest that the lower end of shipments being 14GW is more likely than the upside. If GCL 35GW suggestion of demand in China for 2019 is realized, then there is minor downside r
  9. 1 point
    Koch brothers now using crows to destroy solar power plants: http://m.solarzoom.com/index.php/article/126902
  10. 1 point
    I was so excited earlier this year when ENPH hit $7. Looks like $17+ today and no end in sight as they build market share with their industry leading products. IQ8 by the end of the year!
  11. 1 point
    Biden to hand out 1.7 trillion to FSLR, me likes: https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/04/politics/joe-biden-2020-climate-plan/index.html
  12. 1 point
    I think you need to take with a grain of salt their stated costs. Typically costs are quarters end stated for internal production with current quarterly claimed margins. They have a large deferred revenue recognition with respect to their project builds and module acceptance periods of customers. This means that a large portion 30% or more could be from earlier builds as much as 6 months earlier when their costs were much higher than Q4 stated. For example it takes 1 to 2 months to freight ship. It could take another 1 to 2 months to get them installed. The contracts may also have acceptance clauses that require 6 months of running for baseline output. This suggests that a good portion of the quarterly recognized modules for revenues could be deffered from quarters back. Just look at Q1 where there revenue recognized modules were 1423MW and shipped is about 150MW more. As they mentioned they have over 900MW of EPC projects going on. That is the potential of 250MW a quarter in deferred sales until completed and acceptance. As they roll into more and more NTP this will be worse as will some of their major customer contracts like the recent 1.8GW contract. You also need to understand that not only is the deffered sales hitting their cost structure but it also props up the ASP. They are also being selective and selling to high margin markets and have built a direct sales team. These all lead to the higher ASP as well. The ASP was covered in a reply to Colin Rush.
  13. 1 point
    I have a hard time confirming the $0.30 ASP. I do have theories after looking at revenue segments from the PR. The theory is that revenues of module sales is included in some of the other areas of revenues such as Kits OAM and ESS Projects. They shipped for Revenue 1423MW $371M for MSS solar modules and other products = $0.26 ASP If you add in $25M for kits , the ASP is $0.278 if you add in OAM you get $0.306 if you take MSS $431M you get $0.318 If you take MSS Kits OAM and Energy Projects you get $0.323 Clearly in MSS numbers some of the products is inverters rails etc as part of the kits. Lets presume Kits are 1/3 other costs $0.10 for inverters maybe $0.05 mounts connectors etc. This would reduce 8.3M from the revenue side and $0.006 in lowe ASP If OAM includes upgrades to modules, then there could be some module sales embedded inthose numbers. If say 20% of that is modules, then you lose about $0.022/W I presume that some of the Energy section could have embedded in it the module ASP for the NTP projects as sales. This could be as much as 70-80% of the services. That would lose about $0.01 on the above numbers. Very odd but my best guess is they took MSS numbers, at $453.1. This is $0.318. They subtracted out kits other costs and OAM non module costs(total of around $40M) or $0.028 And added in some NTP revenue say 50% or $0.008. That would get you around $0.298 ASP. This is just looking at the numbers and trying to figure where some of the module revenue would be recognized as a whole.
  14. 1 point
    Well honeys the stock is up despite the heavy bashing earlier here. Let's just hope CSIQ behaves just as good after its ER. 🤪
  15. 1 point
    I've had my fair share of drama today with the kids so need no more. All these issues are peanuts compared to what's cooking at JKS's or CSIQ's. FSLR will make so much money over the next two years it s just obscene.
  16. 1 point
    I believe that article is incorrect in the period of the bookings. They PR'd http://ir.jinkosolar.com/news-releases/news-release-details/jinkosolar-secures-over-107-gw-orders-2019 "Jinko has announced they have contracted FOR 2019 10.7GW.." They did not state 10.7GW IN 2019 which would imply a 4 month bookings. This PR appears to be a cumulative statement for 2019 and not a new bookings in 2019. If that interpretation is correct, they have 3.3-4.3GW left to book for 2019. This would be bookings needed in the next 5 or 6 months. That is very attainable for them. This PR follows a notice of expanding 5GW of of Mono capacity pushing capacity to 11.5GW of Mono wafers. That is 500MW higher than previously guided in Q1. Phillip Shen asked some expansion questions the company indicated it needs some $400-$450M in Capex for the expansions this year. He also questioned them on the equity raising needed and where it comes from and it was clear they are looking at some equity raising. https://seekingalpha.com/article/4250602-jinkosolar-holding-co-ltd-jks-ceo-kangping-chen-q4-2018-results-earnings-call-transcript?part=single Based on the 2 back to back PR's which are basically an affirmation of their intended capacity expansions and progress for sales in 2019, the company is likely looking for positive press and stock so they can raise equity to pay for the capacity expansion.
  17. 1 point
    Congratulations! Nice to hear you've hit your goal.
  18. 1 point
    I think the real issue with FSLR is its risk concentration: Rely on US market dominated revenues Rely on temporary competition protection in US market Rely on temporary subsidies in US market Rely on competitive success of narrow field of CdTe manufacturing equipment development Rely on success of narrow field of rare Tellurium production Rely on continued wide market acceptance of toxic Cadmium So far there's been volatile reward for these risk bets. When one has failed another has delivered. It would seem prudent to spread bets.
  19. 1 point
    Approaching 50% return less than 4 months into the year. Nothing special in solar world, but this time my capital preservation strategy is better. After a long time of focus on asset allocation optimization and verification of Alpha and Beta return attribution I've recently focused more on return contribution analysis in order to verify that the allocation does not contain any poor contributors due to flawed strategy or tactic. I think that this continuous qualification of the strategy and tactic is key to long-term performance success. --- Goal Financial independence by 2030 Objective 15% annual return @ 25% volatility Strategy Rebalance optimal allocation Tactic Buy the dips and hold the rips Allocation Return
  20. 1 point
    Not sure, I'd guess 24-25 cts on a comparable basis.
  21. 1 point
    Looks like H2/2019 in China will be explosive: with about 15 GW PV installations per quarter... https://www.pv-tech.org/news/chinas-new-subsidy-programme-could-support-up-to-50gw-says-official
  22. 1 point
    Only what the web shows. The web suggests they are a 200MW facility that assembles the modules in San AntonioTexas. They use Asian sourced components. They shut down their 100MW cell late 2016 https://www.pv-magazine.com/2016/10/03/mission-solar-energy-to-close-texas-cell-lines-lay-off-87-employees_100026343/ There warranty is 4 to 12 years on mechanical assemby and 25 yrs on power degredataion http://www.missionsolar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/MSE-PV-Module-Limited-Warranty-2018-2019-4BB-5BB.pdf They wholesale for around $0.70/watt https://www.bluepacificsolar.com/best-solar-panels.html It looks like they are a subsidiary of OCI lmtd, those same Multi National guys who make Poly in Seoul Korea. http://www.missionsolar.com/about-us/ They started up around 2014 and have panels installed in the Alamo1 power plant located in San Antonio area. https://newsroom.cpsenergy.com/made-san-antonio-solar-panels/ Hope this helps.
  23. 1 point
    Hmmm, Q4 DQ had 61% production being mono. In Q1 they are forecasting 78% of their production will be mono. To me that sounds like the Multi ASP drop will not impact them significantly for now. As you can see from their transcript below they indicate that Mono would not drop much due to the production costs of most online. In fact they were suggesting due to ratios of mono vs multi poly and much better pricing on Mono and more production Q1 should be improved margins. As for the price tightening, when everyone refines and moves from junk poly to mono quality, then the Si price for Poly wafer production will rebound as the glut will be less. That price rebound for poly would create a narrowing in the price gap. That suggests that that while Mono may decline some, it will not necessarily decline much since the Mono wafers is ramping much faster this year in wafer productions vs last year. Now to add to that DQ, is suggesting they will reduce cash costs to $6.0/KG. That is close to 20% from the Q4 producton costs, This means that they can easily maintain profitability with handle the price dropping 20% from Q4 levels to $~8/KG . When you recognize they will have 2x the capacity and $6/Kg cost, the spread and margins can be narrower and they can make more money than now come 2020. https://seekingalpha.com/article/4248446-daqo-new-energy-corp-dq-ceo-longgen-zhang-q4-2018-results-earnings-call-transcript?part=single "For example, I can say an example, in Q4, our monosilicon supply is around 61%. So, if you look our gross margin, our monosilicon price ASP is around like $10 and the multi is around $6.30 or whatever. Our ASP is around like renminbi is around like – US dollar maybe around like $9.50. So, we see in Q1, we will get more improved our gross margin, the reason because first of all, the monosilicon percentage will increase to around 77%, 78%,"
  24. 1 point
    Exactly, Explo. CN solars should be bought when everyone is selling them (or better yet sold alredy) and sold when everyone is buying them (or better yet bought already), not the other way around. I.E.:JKS should have been bought last quarter of last year at $8-9 and sold earlier this month once it hit $20 (none can pick absolute top and bottom); just like CSIQ should have been bought for much of last half of last year at $12-13 and sold this month in $22-23. I believe we won't see irrational move in solar circa 2009/10 and 2012/13 again. So double is good enough, triple is great. Just do no think CSIQ will get to $40 (without yieldco anticipation of 2014) nor JKS will hit $30+ without Power. Those days are done. Possibility of high margins return is hard to see when all legacy projects are gone and only low margin businesses remain where volume will be everything. Brian Lee asked JKS on Friday where are they going to get $500M without an equity raise they need to expend to 15GW. I did not hear a clear answer from Jinko's side, cause there isn't.
  25. 1 point
    PEGI has been one of my better buys - steady climb and paying great divi
  26. 1 point
    They are sold out into 2021 at fixed prices. Nothing can change their top line in 2020, not even the meteorite that killed the dinosaurs.
  27. 1 point
    OK, in your opinion. Obviously the market disagrees with you right now. But you post information meant to be critical of DQ on a nearly daily basis. Half the time, your interpretation is wrong--the article you reference is actually positive in its entirety, but you pull out an isolated number and present it in a negative light. Or ask us how we should "spin" it. This behavior reminds me of the Yahoo message boards. Do you think your "spinning" actually influences the stock price? Surely you're more intelligent than that. You want the stock price to go down. I want it to go up. Nothing either you or I do or say in this forum will influence what the stock actually does. I value this forum precisely because it is NOT the Yahoo environment. If I want to read "spin," I'll go there (and I sometimes do, when I want a laugh). Here, I want to read quantitative analysis. Moreover, I want to read CONSISTENT analysis. Don't tell me you're looking 2 years out for one stock, but are concerned about the next 3 months for another. Or if you do, just tell me once. You don't have to tell me every day. I don't mean to offend. Your posts are at least polite, unlike the Yahoo crowd. But they clearly support an agenda. We all know that agenda by now. And there's nothing wrong with having an agenda. But when you post it every day, well, it just gets old, that's all.
  28. 1 point
    You are reading the tea leaves wrong. They do not need a $2 spread in 2020. They needed a $2 spread at past 6KMT production levels. For 2019 they are guiding 37-40KMT. They will earn $1 a share on a $1.50 spread before subsidy payments and taxes. In October Nov they will have the Phase 4A starting trial production. They should be ramped 70KMT come January 2020(9 months for now). That 70KMT will produce around 80-90KMT of poly. At a $1 spread that is $80-$90M gross. SGNA is $8.2M today and might go to say $12M. Interest is $2M a Q. That is $56M expenses when 70KMT is ramped. They will earn $24-$34M before taxes adjustments and subsidies in 2020 based on a $1 spread. That is $2-$3 in earnings. For every $0.025 above that $1 spread they will gross an added $20M that goes straight to the bottom line. A $0.50 spread could add $3-$4 a share potential upside to $5-$7 a share in 2020. That and think what happens to FSLR with Poly cost and the rest of the CN costs dropping 30-40% over the next 2-4 years. That is what you should be worried about.
  29. 1 point
    Well the transcript is out and Philip Shen got us the answers to our questions. The extra revenue was from Chonqing inventory sell-off of non-poly crap like ingots and poly-blocks. They seemed to have sold off everything so 2019 will be clean. And the subsidies are basically tax returns which will continue to varying degrees over the next years always in Q4. They also give some good info on production mix and prices which will help to pinpoint EPS over the next quarters I think: https://seekingalpha.com/article/4248446-daqo-new-energy-corp-dq-ceo-longgen-zhang-q4-2018-results-earnings-call-transcript?part=single
  30. 1 point
    What confuses me is they had added an additional revenue of around $6M based on poly asp and volumes. I am not certain where this comes from? Written off wafers? This other income amounted to around $4.5M profits or 60% gross margins. This is looking at revenues and gross profits less the revenue generated from Poly sales of 7030 and their claimed costs.
  31. 1 point
    energytrend says demand is weak: https://www.energytrend.com/pricequotes/20190307-13440.html
  32. 1 point
    Q1 sales are generally announced near the end of Q1 or a couple weeks into Q2. They also are relying more and more on EPC contracted work from projects they did sell in the past before completed.
  33. 1 point
    In my opinion, CSIQ has had a greater string of positive announcements lately, including project wins and margin expansion. FSLR is still in execution of CIP phase and that hasn’t gone smoothly. If FSLR shows any acceleration of ramp up to Series 6, large project wins, margin expansion, etc. the share price trends could shift quickly.
  34. 1 point
    Ah, I see, you are narrowly looking at the word Green New Deal and suggesting it is strictly power. Green means many things. Like Getting Chemicals our of building materials. Getting harmful chemicals out of the ground and water. Having healthy natural foods that are not processed or altered (GMO) or hormone injected being fed to to us. Medicines that are consumed and then pissed into the water systems polluting the water. Broaden your scope and this New Deal lays out a template of objectives that are good goals to want to achieve.
  35. 1 point
    Why are you calling First Solar a POS? It seems you have transferred your anger at a certain poster onto the company. The outright hostility some folks here have for FSLR is rather comical. When comparing First Solar and Canadian Solar you really need to go by enterprise value as the debt (and lack of debt) really changes the picture. First Solar has an EV of $3.2B. Canadian Solar is at $2.85B. Redoing forward earnings based on EV leaves FSLR at 13 and CSIQ over 14. Both companies seem to be similarly priced right now. Then consider that First Solar could have gone all SunPower and considered the ramp and startup costs as a Non-GAAP expense. Doing so would have put EPS at around $4. In addition, EPS won't tell the whole picture because in a year or two cash flow will go up dramatically as the new S6 factories start to depreciate. Lastly, FSLR has these earnings based on 17% efficiency panels. Considering that 3 years ago the company created a cell with 22.1% efficiency, it doesn't seem like much of a stretch to think the company can get module efficiency over 20% in the next three years. Doing so would have a dramatic impact on cost per watt and earnings. Solar has gotten to the point where it has gotten cheaper than the operating cost of coal unsubsidized. That means it should really take off soon. Plus, the mad rush to drive prices down should lessen.
  36. 1 point
    JKS' double in 3 months (almost a triple in 4 months) combined with a massive contract with DQ announce the other day (a.k.a. expansion) smells like a secondary is coming.
  37. 1 point
    It's taking off folks! Watch out for 40 before August, now is not the time to take a quick buck.
  38. 1 point
    Who says I don't believe the outlook is shiny? Just because I warn against investing in some solar companies doesn't mean I don't believe in solar. In fact I think I'm one of the fiercest believers in solar here.
  39. 1 point
    Your word in God's ear! That would pretty much restore my portfolio to previous highs....
  40. 1 point
    Chinese city wants 700 MW of new solar within two years: The announcement from the city authorities comes in the wake of the central government’s call for local authorities, electricity companies and big lenders to remove roadblocks to what it designated ‘grid-parity’ PV projects, by which it meant installations which did not benefit from central subsidies but which could be encouraged by local incentives. https://www.pv-magazine.com/2019/02/14/chinese-city-wants-700-mw-of-new-solar-within-two-years/
  41. 1 point
    I'll add that the 13Fs that have been trickling in for FSLR have been very sexy. Some serious purchases last quarter on the weakness.
  42. 1 point
    First Solar risk/reward remains favorable into Q4 report, says Baird Baird analyst Ben Kallo previewed First Solar's Q4 report and he believes the risk/reward setup is favorable heading into the results. The analyst said he would be a buyer into the report as he thinks a recovering macro environment in the solar space could improve sentiment and drive share appreciation. Kallo said it remains a top pick and he maintained his Fresh Pick designation while reiterating his Outperform rating and $75 price target on First Solar shares.Read more at: https://thefly.com/landingPageNews.php?id=2864736
  43. 1 point
    Unloaded all of mine, except for a big bunch o' shares in my wife's 401k. I'm going to trade the heck out of it this year. But not gonna hold it for extended periods. Now if I can just get out of this FSLR garbage bag I'm holding, I'd be a happy guy.
  44. 1 point
    My second recommendation is Sangamo Therapeutics, SGMO. By Feb 7, the company will have a delivery of the results in MPS II and MPS I. They are first in the world to edit the human genome in vivo. MPS II results were released in September where the application reduced negative byproduct GAGs. In Feb expectation is to confirm that IDS enzyme is produced therefore GAGs are reduced by patients' production of IDS, a deficit of the enzyme is a sole root-cause of MPS II disease. The stock volatility may be very high. However, for those with risk acceptance, now and next 7 trading days from today, the stock could move 10 to 15%. If something fails a 20 to 30% may be experienced on Feb 7. There are more stories to this company. If I will see that Feb 7 is validated I will offer a bigger summary. Proceed at your own risk and good luck.
  45. 1 point
    Defying gravity? Seem to take of easily these days.
  46. 1 point
    https://www.pv-tech.org/news/canadian-solar-and-signal-bag-contract-for-175mw-new-south-wales-pv-project?fbclid=IwAR3byF0qu_XwNpM_Wj5LK3SE_8J3hQ332YWw7qu5VbYn6QtE9UKQ4THX6WU
  47. 1 point
    FSLR nowhere in sight by the way...
  48. 1 point
    Here is a news: China ready to set 3 GW quota for residential solar in 2019 https://www.pv-magazine.com/2019/01/24/china-ready-to-set-3-gw-quota-for-residential-solar-in-2019/
  49. 1 point
    Low end I see is $1.25 high end range is $2.25. Shipments for revenues in the 8GW range.
  50. 1 point
    Needham transcript https://seekingalpha.com/article/4233632-canadian-solar-inc-csiq-21st-annual-needham-growth-brokers-conference-transcript?page=1


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