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  1. 2 points
    New CN policy looks to be targeting 2019 installations greater than 2018. Seems to set targets of around 45GW. http://guangfu.bjx.com.cn/news/20190219/963630.shtml According to the most conservative estimate, the installed capacity of photovoltaics will reach more than 45 million kilowatts in 2019, which has exceeded 44.26 million kilowatts in 2018 http://guangfu.bjx.com.cn/news/20190219/963637.shtml In 2019, the subsidized rated installed capacity will be calculated according to the current expected 3 billion subsidy scale (excluding poverty alleviation). The subsidy intensity of the power subsidy is 0.075 yuan/kWh, and the subsidy scale is about 35.9 GW. (When the power subsidy intensity is 0.05 yuan/kWh, the subsidy scale is about 53.8GW), and then consider 5GW photovoltaic poverty alleviation and 5GW unsubsidized projects, and deduct about 1GW of household occupancy index after 2018 531, 2019 The installed capacity of photovoltaics in the year may reach 45GW, exceeding the installed capacity of 44.3GW in 2018.
  2. 2 points
    Awesome update from CSIQ. Beat on Q4.
  3. 2 points
    Hopefully not for a buyout at 18.60! Chuckle....
  4. 2 points
    The story of Canadian pipeline shrinking was heard loud and clear on this forum since Canadian plants were completed. The company is not only one pure developer still standing, but it is producing more and more business encompassing other arms of managing solar plants. It maintains healthy "sell and/or keep" strategy. There are many markets to go with solar plants. And those markets will expand. We have not seen any victims of the slowdowns with exception of few subs going bankrupt in China. There is plenty of space available. The manufacturing and the decisions made had worked thus far for the company. I am not sure why transformation, when required, would not be as well executed as it has been to date. Not sure why a successful organization would suddenly lose its footing. They are the most capable of a shift. FSLR has zero ability to shift, SPWR is dead, JKS is almost dead and will never be buried if it died, like Yingli, but CSIQ is somehow paralyzed and cannot make a move? I read those scenarios too many times. I argued against them as many, and I am surprised to see them again. Even Snake seems to be seeing Chinese taking FSLR to cleaners now. I do not have a skin in this game, but I think Canadian could surprise few folks here with its share price going forward. Cheers, I am back under the rock.
  5. 2 points
    While I understand (and, as a former [albeit small] JASO stockholder, share) the sentiment, I wouldn't put too much stock into this announcement (pun intended). First, since the guilty parties are all in China, I don't know if a US court has any jurisdiction over them. Second, Pomerantz are ambulance chasers. I've seen their name in dozens of headlines. A company will announce bad news one day, and the next half a dozen of these guys all announce lawsuits, including Pomerantz. I have never once heard of such a suit actually being successful. So this may be a Pyrrhic victory at best....
  6. 1 point
    You guys be careful, Q1 will be horrible for Canadian, that's no secret anymore.
  7. 1 point
    Only what the web shows. The web suggests they are a 200MW facility that assembles the modules in San AntonioTexas. They use Asian sourced components. They shut down their 100MW cell late 2016 https://www.pv-magazine.com/2016/10/03/mission-solar-energy-to-close-texas-cell-lines-lay-off-87-employees_100026343/ There warranty is 4 to 12 years on mechanical assemby and 25 yrs on power degredataion http://www.missionsolar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/MSE-PV-Module-Limited-Warranty-2018-2019-4BB-5BB.pdf They wholesale for around $0.70/watt https://www.bluepacificsolar.com/best-solar-panels.html It looks like they are a subsidiary of OCI lmtd, those same Multi National guys who make Poly in Seoul Korea. http://www.missionsolar.com/about-us/ They started up around 2014 and have panels installed in the Alamo1 power plant located in San Antonio area. https://newsroom.cpsenergy.com/made-san-antonio-solar-panels/ Hope this helps.
  8. 1 point
    Hmmm, Q4 DQ had 61% production being mono. In Q1 they are forecasting 78% of their production will be mono. To me that sounds like the Multi ASP drop will not impact them significantly for now. As you can see from their transcript below they indicate that Mono would not drop much due to the production costs of most online. In fact they were suggesting due to ratios of mono vs multi poly and much better pricing on Mono and more production Q1 should be improved margins. As for the price tightening, when everyone refines and moves from junk poly to mono quality, then the Si price for Poly wafer production will rebound as the glut will be less. That price rebound for poly would create a narrowing in the price gap. That suggests that that while Mono may decline some, it will not necessarily decline much since the Mono wafers is ramping much faster this year in wafer productions vs last year. Now to add to that DQ, is suggesting they will reduce cash costs to $6.0/KG. That is close to 20% from the Q4 producton costs, This means that they can easily maintain profitability with handle the price dropping 20% from Q4 levels to $~8/KG . When you recognize they will have 2x the capacity and $6/Kg cost, the spread and margins can be narrower and they can make more money than now come 2020. https://seekingalpha.com/article/4248446-daqo-new-energy-corp-dq-ceo-longgen-zhang-q4-2018-results-earnings-call-transcript?part=single "For example, I can say an example, in Q4, our monosilicon supply is around 61%. So, if you look our gross margin, our monosilicon price ASP is around like $10 and the multi is around $6.30 or whatever. Our ASP is around like renminbi is around like – US dollar maybe around like $9.50. So, we see in Q1, we will get more improved our gross margin, the reason because first of all, the monosilicon percentage will increase to around 77%, 78%,"
  9. 1 point
    I've lost count of how many times they have lied to investors. I buy their audited financial statements but not much more than that. That's just me.
  10. 1 point
    Just like you've been predicting Daqo to lose money for the last three quarters and every time you were wrong. They don't need prices to rise (although that would be a nice bonus). They just need prices to stabilize somewhere, and to have costs below that. So far, their cost-cutting has managed to stay ahead of the price declines. I see no reason for that to cease.
  11. 1 point
    OK, in your opinion. Obviously the market disagrees with you right now. But you post information meant to be critical of DQ on a nearly daily basis. Half the time, your interpretation is wrong--the article you reference is actually positive in its entirety, but you pull out an isolated number and present it in a negative light. Or ask us how we should "spin" it. This behavior reminds me of the Yahoo message boards. Do you think your "spinning" actually influences the stock price? Surely you're more intelligent than that. You want the stock price to go down. I want it to go up. Nothing either you or I do or say in this forum will influence what the stock actually does. I value this forum precisely because it is NOT the Yahoo environment. If I want to read "spin," I'll go there (and I sometimes do, when I want a laugh). Here, I want to read quantitative analysis. Moreover, I want to read CONSISTENT analysis. Don't tell me you're looking 2 years out for one stock, but are concerned about the next 3 months for another. Or if you do, just tell me once. You don't have to tell me every day. I don't mean to offend. Your posts are at least polite, unlike the Yahoo crowd. But they clearly support an agenda. We all know that agenda by now. And there's nothing wrong with having an agenda. But when you post it every day, well, it just gets old, that's all.
  12. 1 point
    You are getting me wrong, I like DQ a lot and I was hoping I could buy some. But the price needs to drop, it's too expensive right now, out of sync with fundamentals imho.
  13. 1 point
    You are reading the tea leaves wrong. They do not need a $2 spread in 2020. They needed a $2 spread at past 6KMT production levels. For 2019 they are guiding 37-40KMT. They will earn $1 a share on a $1.50 spread before subsidy payments and taxes. In October Nov they will have the Phase 4A starting trial production. They should be ramped 70KMT come January 2020(9 months for now). That 70KMT will produce around 80-90KMT of poly. At a $1 spread that is $80-$90M gross. SGNA is $8.2M today and might go to say $12M. Interest is $2M a Q. That is $56M expenses when 70KMT is ramped. They will earn $24-$34M before taxes adjustments and subsidies in 2020 based on a $1 spread. That is $2-$3 in earnings. For every $0.025 above that $1 spread they will gross an added $20M that goes straight to the bottom line. A $0.50 spread could add $3-$4 a share potential upside to $5-$7 a share in 2020. That and think what happens to FSLR with Poly cost and the rest of the CN costs dropping 30-40% over the next 2-4 years. That is what you should be worried about.
  14. 1 point
    Well the transcript is out and Philip Shen got us the answers to our questions. The extra revenue was from Chonqing inventory sell-off of non-poly crap like ingots and poly-blocks. They seemed to have sold off everything so 2019 will be clean. And the subsidies are basically tax returns which will continue to varying degrees over the next years always in Q4. They also give some good info on production mix and prices which will help to pinpoint EPS over the next quarters I think: https://seekingalpha.com/article/4248446-daqo-new-energy-corp-dq-ceo-longgen-zhang-q4-2018-results-earnings-call-transcript?part=single
  15. 1 point
    What confuses me is they had added an additional revenue of around $6M based on poly asp and volumes. I am not certain where this comes from? Written off wafers? This other income amounted to around $4.5M profits or 60% gross margins. This is looking at revenues and gross profits less the revenue generated from Poly sales of 7030 and their claimed costs.
  16. 1 point
    JKS booked out until H2 and expanding capacity 10-20%: https://menafn.com/1098223156/China-plans-to-sustain-solar-growth-with-its-new-policy
  17. 1 point
    energytrend says demand is weak: https://www.energytrend.com/pricequotes/20190307-13440.html
  18. 1 point
    If you were wondering why JKS has dumped, patent infringement cases filed against Jinko and Longi and the REC Group by QCells for stealing and using their patented quantum technology. They are trying to block them from the US and European Union markets among others. https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2019/03/05/hanwha-q-cells-sues-jinko-longi-and-rec-for-patent-infringement/
  19. 1 point
    I think they have positive earnings of a couple pennies before 1 timers I expect a $1.85 spread on cost to ASP. I am using a lower cost and volume than yours Gross comes in around $12.6M My Opex and Int are slightly higher at $12.2M Q4 though is not relevant. 2019 costs and guidance are. I expect Q1 to be the low for the year in earnings in the low double digits and increasing from there. I expect Q1 costs to be around $7.50 I expect costs to decline slightly from there with production ramps and optimization The second half of 2019 should be stronger as that is were the forecast in volume increases over the first half. This should lead to a slight rise in ASP int he second half even with the new capacity. From this I reasonably expect a full year profit of North of $2 a share. Disclosure: I do not own DQ.
  20. 1 point
    OMG I just noticed that I already had a Q4 estimate back in November. Here's my update. I've just posted in on estimize. OMG I'm the only one forecasting a loss. It's so exciting to be competing against WS names like Philip Shen. Wish me luck you guys! Volume sold: 7200T ASP: $9.8/kg cost: $8.7/kg Gross: $8.3M OPEX&NI: $11.2M EPS: -$0.18 before adjustments P.D. anybody else have an estimate?
  21. 1 point
    Q1 sales are generally announced near the end of Q1 or a couple weeks into Q2. They also are relying more and more on EPC contracted work from projects they did sell in the past before completed.
  22. 1 point
    I think he's referring to 2018 and their FY GM of 17.5% vs. original guidance of 22-23% in Dec. 2017. I don't know all the reasons, they had some extra costs in Q4 to finish the projects on time, but that's only one of several reasons probably. On a positive note revenue came very close to the lower end of guidance, EPS within the guidance range, and net cash above guidance. However I think pointing out their GM miss is like searching for a hair in the soup, as they say in my country. Good thing the CNs don't give you GM guidance because then you would find the whole wig in the soup.
  23. 1 point
    In my opinion, CSIQ has had a greater string of positive announcements lately, including project wins and margin expansion. FSLR is still in execution of CIP phase and that hasn’t gone smoothly. If FSLR shows any acceleration of ramp up to Series 6, large project wins, margin expansion, etc. the share price trends could shift quickly.
  24. 1 point
    As for the word affordable. My it is a nasty word if all you care about is massive unfettered capitalism. The word is listed 4 times (D) building or upgrading to energy-efficient, distributed, and “smart” power grids, and ensuring affordable access to electricity Comment: Affordable sounds so nasty when trying to build something that is useful and futuristic. If they only did that with Nuclear Power plants Georgia and South Carolina would have avoided a $20Billion catastrophe that is no longer able to be built but citisens are paying for. (ii) clean, affordable, and accessible public transit; Comment: sounds reasonable to want affordable public transit that is clean. That is unless you don't use public transit that might get you from your hotel to your airport, aroud your airport, around densely populated areas etc. But I guess affordable is a hated word by unfettered capitalists. (ii) affordable, safe, and adequate housing; What affordable safe housing in a green new deal? No more tens of thousands of trailers passed out by our government that poisoned and made sick those displaced by Hurricane Katrina? Or maybe we should just let Lumber Liquidators knwoingly have their suppliers make flooring with illegal chemicals and mark them as legal just so they undercut their competitors by 15%. How about try finding materials that are safe and affordable not like lead based products , asbestos based products, products made from Oil etc. Jeesh what a terrible idea and the use of the word affordable. (iv) clean water, clean air, healthy and affordable food, and access to nature. What healthy and affordable food? Maybe only the rich should be able to buy healthy food. Or maybe food should not be tried to be made affordable. Personally I am getting sick and tired of buying $20 a pound T-Bone steaks that I used to by for $3 a pound.
  25. 1 point
    You clearly have not read the Green New Deal. If you did you would recognize it is uses the US Science intelligence report that identifies issues with Climate change. It identifies impacts of Global warming and effects on the U.S and globally. It then outlines goals and objectives with time lines in order to curb the impacts of man made US contributions to Global Warming. To me this is a reasonable to set goals to try and achieve them. Even if they achieve 50% of the goals and 50% of those targets, it is better than sitting around doing nothing. It is far better sounding to me than the current administration current policies of allowing more ground water pollution, more pollution put into the air, more strip mining and more burning of fossil fuels with less pollution inhibitors. It is only a 12 page outline of things to address and why. Please take the time to read it and do not listen to all the BS hype of banning airplane travel etc. https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/109/text?fbclid=IwAR0RQdF7V_HtPyYdjvAp-gk0Aq5iehvJ-c7_IU5MBg7M7PvBA2LGqN1R0DA
  26. 1 point
    JKS' double in 3 months (almost a triple in 4 months) combined with a massive contract with DQ announce the other day (a.k.a. expansion) smells like a secondary is coming.
  27. 1 point
    It's taking off folks! Watch out for 40 before August, now is not the time to take a quick buck.
  28. 1 point
    Europe bounces back in 2018, and 2019 will be bigger. https://www.rechargenews.com/transition/1707217/eu-solar-bounces-back-in-2018-led-by-german-and-dutch-push?utm_source=Recharge+Daily+Newsletter&utm_campaign=c4c2e4fe31-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_02_21_09_00&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_8680971c0c-c4c2e4fe31-19444157
  29. 1 point
    Your word in God's ear! That would pretty much restore my portfolio to previous highs....
  30. 1 point
    Why do we have to "spin" anything? This is a board for factual discussion.
  31. 1 point
    You are clueless. Went long csiq yesterday, minimum 6 month target 40s
  32. 1 point
    I'll add that the 13Fs that have been trickling in for FSLR have been very sexy. Some serious purchases last quarter on the weakness.
  33. 1 point
    First Solar risk/reward remains favorable into Q4 report, says Baird Baird analyst Ben Kallo previewed First Solar's Q4 report and he believes the risk/reward setup is favorable heading into the results. The analyst said he would be a buyer into the report as he thinks a recovering macro environment in the solar space could improve sentiment and drive share appreciation. Kallo said it remains a top pick and he maintained his Fresh Pick designation while reiterating his Outperform rating and $75 price target on First Solar shares.Read more at: https://thefly.com/landingPageNews.php?id=2864736
  34. 1 point
    That makes sense as grid parity is not in place in China. That also suggests why price declines are in store. PV insights is suggesting module prices have fallen. There are 2 good articles on Guangfu today. The first covers current market analysis and utilization rates. They suggest that utilization rates are still far below the pre 531 announcement although they did up tick recently in China. http://guangfu.bjx.com.cn/news/20190213/962366.shtml The overall utilization rate of production capacity in the Chinese market continued to rise, reaching 83% - but still not returning to the level before the "531 New Deal" This second article is a good article on the details of costs that China needs to hit for grid parity. It will give you an idea that the prices will drop significantly over the next 2 years. They are suggesting an average cost to build of 3.25RMB or $0.49(USD) for Grid parity. Depending on regions some are lower costs and some are higher in cost. They are suggesting the current cost to build is ~4.2RMB. They are suggesting a 28% system cost price decline is in order to meet grid parity. These suggest that the solar costs are going to have to further drop. Current costs of $0.63(USD) will fall to $0.49(USD). The current module cost I estimate at $0.26. That is 41% of the total cost. A 28% price drop on the module cost is $0.0728. This places China needing a target module cost of $0.18-$0.19 come 2020 and later. That is where China hits grid parity and solar PV demand will explode. http://guangfu.bjx.com.cn/news/20190213/962352-2.shtml Definition of Parity online “The cost of PV system for I, II, and III resource areas requires 3.21, 3.37, and 3.28 yuan/W, respectively; the median of all regions, the threshold for national PV affordable Internet projects is 3.25 yuan/W.” Analysis of the cost reduction of PV parity online Based on the above parameters, the conclusions that can be calculated are: 1 The cost of the power station system is 4.2 yuan / W; 2 The internal rate of return of the project is 7.14%. Core conclusion: According to this standard, the current national photovoltaic ground power station system cost still needs to drop by 28% compared with the median level of 3.25 yuan/W national parity online. That is to say, the cost of photovoltaic power plant system will drop by 28% at the current level, and the country will implement large-scale (more than 50%) low-cost Internet access on the power generation side.
  35. 1 point
    I am not Klothilde but I do have a few predictions for the upcoming earnings. First off, the company should declare a fairly large tax refund. In 2017 First Solar took a $405M hit to repatriate its overseas earnings due to the new tax bill. Considering the one-time rate was 15.5%, this seemed like a massive overpayment. Management has a history of overpaying taxes and then claiming a big refund. Unless I am mistaken this should provide a huge ($1.5-$2) EPS beat. The company has alluded to a potential refund in every earnings call and 10-Q this year. Here is what they said last time. "To relate, the U.S. tax reform enacted last December, we have not recorded any adjustment through Q3 related to our original estimates. We expect to finalize our accounting related to tax reform in Q4 based upon finalization of currently proposed tax regulations and the filing of our federal and state income tax returns." Also, during the guidance call the company hinted at possibly expanding in either Vietnam or Ohio. It wouldn't be to surprising for them to announce construction beginning on a third plant in Vietnam. Also, management mentioned getting started on 5GW of projects to qualify for the ITC Safe Harbor requirements. This should mean that the projects pipeline should grow dramatically in the next few quarters. Lastly, here's an article about a 135GW project getting developed in Cambodia. It would appear the company is still competitive internationally.
  36. 1 point
    Nah, not bitter at all. In fact I've been rather excited and bullish since Christmas, having dug out of my CSIQ hole and made a handsome profit at the same time. It's just the last time we heard from you, DQ was going to $100 or something and it promptly went to $20. So you're a bit of a contrarian indicator. Longer term, I agree though and ain't going anywhere... party is just starting.
  37. 1 point
    I can see the past year has turned you into a more bitter fellow, which is unsurprising given the poor performance of most solar stocks but this needen't be the case in the coming years. I'm very grateful to this forum, specially Robert and H20 since I learnt a lot from both of these members and had large profits with Daqo in 2018. I just wanted to share my view that I believe it is probable that the solar sector is making another turn to the upside and long term bets could produce ample profits in the future. Solar still only ptovides 0.6% of the world's energy consumption, the growth potential is huge and CSIQ is in a great possition to capitalize it.
  38. 1 point
    Unloaded all of mine, except for a big bunch o' shares in my wife's 401k. I'm going to trade the heck out of it this year. But not gonna hold it for extended periods. Now if I can just get out of this FSLR garbage bag I'm holding, I'd be a happy guy.
  39. 1 point
    More on PG&E with commentary on the solar aspect as well as those companies most affected... https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2019/01/27/pge-gets-a-break-and-opportunity-is-still-knocking/#3767dfe56d10
  40. 1 point
    Defying gravity? Seem to take of easily these days.
  41. 1 point
    SWEET!!!! So prices are expected to rise, while everyone keeps cutting costs. Means margins will inflate. And with over 100 GW being installed worldwide year after year, volume is no problem. Good volume + increasing margins = good profit growth! Could we finally be on the verge of turning the corner--permanently?! The optimism in this article certainly explains the rise in share prices we've seen across the board recently. Think I'll keep my still-underwater positions in CSIQ, JKS, and DQ a bit longer.
  42. 1 point
    Says ASP's have already stabilized and will rise 10-15 percent this year. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-davos-meeting-solar-gcl/party-is-over-for-dirt-cheap-solar-panels-says-china-executive-idUSKCN1PI2OQ
  43. 1 point
    FSLR nowhere in sight by the way...
  44. 1 point
    I believe at the time of the spinoff they had only something like 125MW of their 1GW plus in the catalog. The next catalog that came out I believe after the spinoff should have added about 300-400MW more leaving some 800MW not in the catalog. Then of course there is the GW or so a year they were adding after the spinoff that would not be in the catalog. Those post spinoff projects were funded by modules being sold by Jinko with little or no payment down. Those modules are now AR's and notess receivables. Some of the "revenues and profits" from Jinko are from those sales to Jinko New Energy which are at risk of default as well. The CEO is using JKS to float his spinoff. I do not trust Jinko Chairman to have the shareholders interest at heart.
  45. 1 point
    I would be concerned about JKS. They are the guarantor of the debt they spun off with the New Energy spinoff. A very large portion of those projects were not in the catalog and not getting the FIT payments.
  46. 1 point
    If your math is correct, they'd be smarter to just shut down their business right now.
  47. 1 point
    GP $620-$700M. Opex $430M+/- Interest $100M+/- ASP $0.27 CPW $0.235(13%GM) on 8GW shipments for revenues The wild card are project sales revenue , power revenues and EPC revenues. Project 130MW Japan @ 3.30 @ 30%GM 700MW @ 1.2/W @ 12.5%GM Power Revenues/Dividend Incomes $40M @ 50%GM EPC $150M @ 15%GM
  48. 1 point
    Low end I see is $1.25 high end range is $2.25. Shipments for revenues in the 8GW range.
  49. 1 point
    Nice to see CSIQ hitting 52-week highs, getting business globally, becoming independent off commodity material swings. I read commentary how they going to fall on their face with their multi products. Not likely if they build solar parks with them as a major user. CSIQ adaptability to business cycles seems superior to any other listed company. And surprisingly the market is recognizing it. Days of $40 per share may not be gone but if anything CSIQ has a chance to reach that in a couple years.
  50. 1 point
    China unveils an ambitious new push on grid parity solar https://www.pv-magazine.com/2019/01/10/china-unveils-an-ambitious-new-push-on-grid-parity-solar/


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